Comments on: “Conscious” Moochers

By: Ariel

Ariel — Mon, 07 Sep 2009 01:11:10 +0000

@ Tarchea, the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth. It never ceases to amaze me how some of these so called conscious love to spend their money on everyone else but when it comes to supporting a true conscious one it’s too much. I can never overstand that kind of thinking. Why should these uplifting bros and sis not be compensated for their hard work? They got to eat etc. just like you do. Why should they suffer because you want to be ignorant? Also, they’re willing to do the work to help you so why shouldn’t you support that. Shit I mean a lot of them support white institutions who isn’t for the good of humanity but they can’t support themselves. That’s why I feel they are agents of the beast. That slavery mentality has got to go. Un Willie Lynch yourselves people. Stop giving the beast your power because that’s the only way the beast has it’s power by acting as a vampire and sucking you dry, but you there with your neck flashing saying “Bite me, bite me.” Please getting money and bling and looking like Beyonce is not what life is about. Get a life, a true life. Stop bowing to the beast because the beast is going to have it’s day and anyone who bows down will to. Quit sucking the life out of the messenger. Me personally I’d rather give my money to my own people than keep fueling the white supremacist capital structure, but on the flip side it’s hard not to because most of our people don’t have the economical know how to produce anything of value that people need everyday so that makes it hard. So whenever I find a brotha or sista that I can support I make sure to buy whatever it is that they are offering. I’d rather support my own. I wish we were out there with more force. To take it further I only want to support the brothas and sistas that are positive and actually conscious because there are some unconscious bros and sis that are contributing to the demise of our people. I don’t support ignorance in anyone. Many are called but few are chosen.

By: Amahotep

Amahotep — Sun, 06 Sep 2009 15:35:57 +0000

Hey,

In my opinion and I know I have told u before Naj, that being conscious does not mean be fully awake. These individuals are still Christians in disguise. They are waiting on a savior and abandon the fact that we are in a physical war right now. When I spoke with some of the women who disagreed with your book, the first thing I found out is that someone “gave” it to them. These heffas had the nerve to talk about it but had not even had the decency to purchase it. I also witnessed people backlashing at brotha seti for selling his lectures but they failed to acknowledge the extensive amount of dollas he put out traveling to research this information and bring it back. People have the mindset that if you are black and I am black, it should be free but we can pay the crakka. It is ridiculous and that lets you know where their mind really is. They want to claim consciousness in hopes of being saved by knowing what is what.

My thing is knowing and pursuing is two different things. If u don’t know what’s real, u can slide but if u know and still don’t conform-who’s fault is it if u fail?Our liberation movements have never been fully supported by our people but check out the millions who marched for integration with the beast.These zombies still have an undying love for massa and the mission is to feed off of the true black awakened collective as well as to stop our divine elevation into the cosmos.

Tarchea

By: carolyn

carolyn — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 20:00:03 +0000

That won’t last…

I was thinkin bout dis dis mornin

Dis mus be why Orhemah always let mainstream nonsense BLOW, harder than socalled WHAT?! consc WHAt?!

They are more like the ants in the sense they keep the fibres goin on that frequency and mainstream had to be bigger just to combat these fully blown imposters

hell jus like u say we all are responsible

What a diffrent mindset to picture us as Black Women in Ancient times drivin the like away from us, pushing them by thousands away from us, I got a racey feelin we did do this.

The movement outa this hell, is full of people who made it big in “consciousness city” but they always end up dead when they are most influential in setting the bar of how to approach Orhemah

Anotha way to look at it to talk about ur point Naj is the methods we have been using Allthough we may Look up to the greats, from Dr Ben to Garveyn’em fused with their Existence was always a deep personal underlying betrayal of Orhemah in that the initial offenders started this trend back befor we could remember

and us being conscious people of these truths wishfully think we keep gettin away from it, but we not.
cause we the actual people=imposters=posers=conscious followers&leaders are akin to paralleling our outcomes –noun
1. a final product or end result; consequence; issue.
2. a conclusion reached through a process of logical thinking.
with those of forfaulters under these (glaring truths in sabotage)
Im just makin sure i get a particular point of this quote Naj: my point is that, again, not taking care of the worker bees is jus one expression symptomatic of a larger issue with the mind.

We currently
enduce—>1. to lead or move by persuasion or influence, as to some action

on multiple frequency that are of null and voidance minimal if not nonexistin, of actual movement=action=change. When lookin at the bigga picture.

this typa frequency is so low as it has become natural among the conscious to ignore and start ova wit/different subjects same basis ova time. without even askin why we got to keep startin over.

By: naj

naj — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 17:05:00 +0000

its amazin to me too how quick “conscious” people are to throw christians and muslims in the hellfires as if they are betta organized than they. i have my differences with the christan and islamic concepts but i giv a bow to them when it comes to taking steps that those who teach them, howeva incorrect the message is, they ensure their peoples are takin care of.

again, dr. ben and dr. wilson and nem are testaments to what this so-called knowledge have done to our minds as a collective. when i look back on how brotha wilson transcended and i study his work the only thing one can say is that its a damn shame and we gon pay that tab.

the mindsets of the people claiming conscious have not been transformed. and this goes beyond the dollas. many running on the conscious community (so-called) are rebel christans and rebel muslims who for whateva reasons-namely not wanting to adhere to structure and discpline, can best be described as egyptian christians.

i rememba a lecture by brotha wilson where he said that yu can find some good stuff in the bible and apply analogy. fa sho he was right. becuz i can think of that sodom and how Abraham pleaded with God to save the city. God said he would if he could find so many righteous people. i think the number was 10 they agreed to right. and each time abraham went lookinh into the city to fins 10. he couldnt do it. god said cool, bring me 9. abrahma said cool…but he couldnt do it. and the numbas kept decreasing and decreasing where abraham couldnt find one righteous person.

my point is that, again, not taking care of the worker bees is jus one expression symptomatic of a larger issue with the mind. i takes displine to be conscious. there are dooz and donts in this walk. every lifestyle is not condusive to the raising of the frequency level individually and collective.

and here si the point too: becuz this walk requires a specific mindset, namely first recognizng that Black woman is God and then the discpline attached to it that one may cultivate their spiritual walk thru her esoteric light code transmissions. but yu see people dont wanna be told what to do. they dont wanna be told for example that two Sistahs cannot rub one anotha sexually and call themselves God.

Brothas dont wanna be told that they frontin when they say Black woman is God becuz she rarely has center stage in the talks or writings. again, we have pretenders.

it was the pretenders and conscious moochers who betrayed dr. ben, wilson and williams and it is the “conscious” community as a collective who will also be held responsible for that becuz we failed to make these pretenders accountable.

By: carolyn

carolyn — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 22:04:32 +0000

Thats watsup Ariel
It’s those same people that keep resetting the friggin time machine on us.

It just cut so deep to hear the truth about the conscious black prolly cause I always thought when I got to this point Id see somthin different in conscious black,

BOY was I evr wrong,
Squalor?
squalor?

It’s just so hard to believe about dese big MOUTHZ.

How come this is not all socalled “conscious blacks” talk about I mean aside from the Black Woman being God , this one of the most prevalent , inda face, manifestation of methodology failures.

but then again they already knew these tactics would neva work, cause they witnessed othas doin it in thier parents time and so did the slaves, cause brothas used to have wisemen visit slaves houses to tell them the truth about from wenst they came and their history, nobody supported him nobody passed the word on but then, master would send the next brotha whod come along n retract errthang said they not only bought in to it they spread his words about as truth.

Commonsense’ll tell them that We have to feed the Worker Bees, Humans are in fact users.

Backstabbers!!

By: Ariel

Ariel — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 20:57:02 +0000

Naj u are so right. Man I would have told that chick who gave her pledge talking about your reward is going to be in “heaven” that I ain’t in heaven now so that means I have to pay rent, bills etc. just like you do in the real world. I would have asked her do you say that to your employer when you go to work “Oh I’ll work for you for free because my reward will be there when I get to heaven.” These so called conscious people and religious people kill me when they bust out with that mess. It’s like they forget we living on this earth plane just like them and we need things now that can’t wait until we get to heaven. I would of told her we already in heaven because the earth is already in space, I want my reward now. Again that is just a cop out because deep down in their heart they don’t want to contribute anything real to the cause that would actually have them giving up something of theirs to another. Ain’t that some bullshit? I mean it’s like These people don’t even have a conscious or practical approach to their fellow man. Like the old saying goes “Being so spiritual minded that you’re no earthly good.” You got to eat just like they do and I don’t think they realize how much money and work and research you have to really do. I buy and read and research on my own time and that adds up. I mean some of these books cost a lot depending on which one and if you use gas and stuff, your electricity to read and use the computer I mean people need to really take this stuff into consideration. Plus it’s not like u asking for hundreds or thousands of dollars just $20. I mean they really are pitiful and what do these so called conscious people do with the info that they get from real conscious scholars; they twist and pervert the knowledge for their own personal gain. Also to like u said Naj “knowledge is meaningless without application.” These brothers like Dr. Ben etc. they loved their people too much and neglected themselves and ended up the worse for their troubles. In the midst of trying to elevate our people you can’t neglect yourself. I personally don’t see anything wrong with you asking for any subscriptions because this is your labor of love and truthfully any person claiming that they’re conscious would be able to already see that and be compelled by the love in their heart for what you’re doing and going through to help bring them enlightenment that they would automatically give to you without u asking. It would be like “Brother Naj man you are doing the work to help uplift our people, man here’s $50, I know it ain’t much but man I just want to show my appreciation to you.” But it’s not like that and then collectively we wonder why we still on the bottom. A lot of us, not all, don’t know how to treat ourselves right let alone our fellow man. If you don’t love or show appreciation to yourself how u going to show it for someone else?

By: naj

naj — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 11:36:16 +0000

we mus add this to the mix as well. we are dealing with two generations, starting on three, of conscious moochers here. (please see the detail analysis soon to be released in the Temple site “How Conscious Moochers contribute to the Demise of the Movement”).

but we have those moochers who are Dr. Ben’s and Dr. Wilson’s and nem age group and then we have the younger ones who are the children of those elders-us. and now we are producing an even younger group of conscious moochers unda us who taking the same stand. my point is that i am not saying the offspring from our elders was THE problem. not at all. i am saying we have willfully and gladly taken the torch from the moochers who came bfore us and we are passing that torch to our young so that it becomes an awful and terrifying realization that with all these pieces of knowledge about Kemet and how we be boucing back from this place to the otha, this lecture to the otha, and what not, how we got radio spots on blogtalk, and making star-studded videos, we have not matured in the knowledge at all. most of us think that when dr wilson transcended and brotha c. williams transcended in squalor that it is neither our individual resposibilities or it does not affect us. well think again.

since they died in squalor, this means our levels and quality of our teachings is such becuz if it wasnt,then they would not have transcnded in squalor becuz our teachings would have focused on the right principles as to how to look ahead and comfort our elderly. but here too yu have the faker teachers who dont teach application.

i say again, teachers are afriad to teach application or they dont know how to teach it.

so they think if they tell us that Kemet was black then they done something. if they take us to Kemet, then they done something. if they scream loud and talk about “the white man is the devil” they done something. amazingly, none of the three things jus mentioned helped Dr. wilson and c. williams and it shoal aint helping Dr. Ben.

knwoledeg is meaningless without application.

so right thinking people mus step back and begin to question several phenomenon like who is teachin us? why have we been mislead? why are we allowing our workerbees to die in squalor? and then make esoteric and secular connections as to the age old question that hunts the “conscious” community moment by moment: “why are we at a stand still?”

By: carolyn

carolyn — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 05:10:56 +0000

The definitions from above are for the word
((((((((((((NATURE)))))))))))

By: carolyn

carolyn — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 05:09:31 +0000

1. the material world, esp. as surrounding humankind and existing independently of human activities.
2. the natural world as it exists without human beings or civilization.
3. the elements of the natural world, as mountains, trees, animals, or rivers.
4. natural scenery.
5. the universe, with all its phenomena.
6. the sum total of the forces at work throughout the universe.
7. reality, as distinguished from any effect of art: a portrait true to nature.
8. the particular combination of qualities belonging to a person, animal, thing, or class by birth, origin, or constitution; native or inherent character: human nature.
9. the instincts or inherent tendencies directing conduct: a man of good nature.
10. character, kind, or sort: two books of the same nature.
11. characteristic disposition; temperament: a self-willed nature; an evil nature.
12. the original, natural, uncivilized condition of humankind.
13. the biological functions or the urges to satisfy their requirements.
14. a primitive, wild condition; an uncultivated state.
15. a simple, uncluttered mode of life without the conveniences or distractions of civilization: a return to nature.
16. (initial capital letter, italics) a prose work (1836), by Ralph Waldo Emerson, expounding transcendentalism.
17. Theology. the moral state as unaffected by grace.
—Idioms
18. by nature, as a result of inborn or inherent qualities; innately: She is by nature a kindhearted person.
19. in a state of nature,
a. in an uncivilized or uncultured condition.
b. without clothes; nude; naked.
20. of or in the nature of, having the character or qualities of: in the nature of an apology. WHAT the hell is in yalls nature and how does yalls nature define yur being according to these definitions which evr definition goes with ur intrigue/attention plug the word into a thesaurus to find ur place in , or out of the mystery sytem youll know it’s her when you can’t understand

And fo sistas youll know when ur steadily intrigued it’s important cause its U, err body else will be naturally intrigued duuuuuhhh cause it’s a big mystery to dem anyway.

By: carolyn

carolyn — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 05:01:51 +0000

News Flash!! News Flash!! News Flash!!

To be Devine is to be the “person”ificatin of Force

((Person))ification

((Persona))fication of force,
NOT (((IF))ICATION of force ((((Person))))afication of force))))

((Force))=to be reckoned wit

Force is different yall
to explain from my point of view would be to do Orhemah a disservice causa the extreme Mooch factor.

But i’ll let some majic fall and say that to force somethin envolves owning a plane on earth and being able to move it!!

Thats Right only 1 person so, 1. physical power or strength possessed by a living being: He used all his force in opening the window.
2. strength or power exerted upon an object; physical coercion; violence: to use force to open the window; to use force on a person.
3. strength; energy; power; intensity: a personality of great force.
4. power to influence, affect, or control; efficacious power: the force of circumstances; a force for law and order.
can you do that from where you stand

ask yurself if not you are/have any real force

Diety
1. a god or goddess.
2. divine character or nature, esp. that of the Supreme Being; divinity.
3. the estate or rank of a god: The king attained deity after his death.
4. a person or thing revered as a god or goddess: a society in which money is the only deity.
5. the Deity, God; Supreme Being. come on now can you really say that about yurselves

I mean can you really?

Apparently, the moochers and othas have britghtened up my day as not to have the question anymore bout why they frontin and not workin out to
Who out there is really God?
And what is a force besides what we know as causing =hurricanes to wipe out a certain group of people
Could it be that God manifest in a man as a Woman HA!! who’s to say? Nobody

We got the whole game twisted!!